August 28, 2008

Silencing a Dangerous Message

Posted by Froz Gobo

Anybody else paying attention to this despicable crap?


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Of which despicable crap do you speak?

Posted by: Clownæsthesiologist at August 28, 2008 10:54 PM
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Every channel available through Comcast scuttled Obama's speech.

Posted by: froz gobo at August 28, 2008 11:02 PM
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what are you talking about?

Posted by: DrFrankLives at August 28, 2008 11:43 PM
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I hope, sincerely hope, that others' experience of Obama's speech on TV was different. But via Comcast, every channel carrying the convention transmitted crystal-clear until Barack took the stage at which point the video and audio feed were rendered unintelligible. His speech, inspiring as it seemed to be under these garbled circumstances, was thoroughly unintelligible. This happened on ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, CNN, and PBS. After he was done speaking, the video and audio feed returned to normal.

Please provide other experience.

Posted by: froz gobo at August 28, 2008 11:55 PM
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Came through fine here. Sucks for you, dude. That was an awesome speech.

Posted by: apostropher at August 29, 2008 12:20 AM
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Damn. Send link to video as available. Any other Comcast customers willing to comment?

Posted by: froz gobo at August 29, 2008 12:28 AM
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msnbc.com has it linked from the front page.

Posted by: apostropher at August 29, 2008 12:39 AM
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I got Comcastic here in Nashville. There was a brief signal outage during the videography section, but the speech came through loud and clear. LOUD and CLEAR, I tell you. Apo, were you happy enough with the red meat offered tonight?

Posted by: dob at August 29, 2008 01:22 AM
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Yes, I was.

Posted by: apostropher at August 29, 2008 07:58 AM
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Also in Nashville (hi dob), watched it at the Flying Saucer downtown. The management turned off the Vandy football game and switched to the convention. (It's where Drinking Liberally meets, so there were a lot of folks there.)

Not that this is the thread for it, but three things: Aren't the Democrats still pro-choice?; Yes, Obama, it sure would be nice for gays and lesbians to visit each other in the ICU when sick BUT IF THEY COULD GET MARRIED ETC; and fucking STOP saying nice things about John McCain!!!! Gahh.

Posted by: KJ at August 29, 2008 08:47 AM
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Maybe you have seen this, but McCain made a nice, classy gesture in acknowledgement of Obama's achievement. (Really.)

Are we supposed to be impressed by an obviously insincere attempt to steal a bit of attention, in the middle of a election filled with lies and character assassination from the McCain campaign? Please.

Posted by: Gabriel at August 29, 2008 09:04 AM
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Wow. What a speech. It was so weird to have the A&V disrupted. It was fine up to about 30 seconds into the speech and returned to normal immediately afterwards. I have to check with neighbors on their experience.

I like McCain and have for a long time. But the "Job well done" ad was a savvy campaign maneuver, nothing else.

Posted by: froz gobo at August 29, 2008 10:41 AM
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I like McCain and have for a long time.

I don't and haven't ever.

Posted by: apostropher at August 29, 2008 11:21 AM
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Palin? Seriously?

Posted by: NCProsecutor at August 29, 2008 11:38 AM
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Aren't the Democrats still pro-choice?; Yes, Obama, it sure would be nice for gays and lesbians to visit each other in the ICU when sick BUT IF THEY COULD GET MARRIED ETC; and fucking STOP saying nice things about John McCain!!!! Gahh.

Barack was fairly obviously stating that these are policy issues on which Democrats and Republicans positions are quite different, but on which we could find some measure of consensus if we were to try. Politically, that strikes me as the best way to defuse these culture war issues, and policy-wise, the best way to progress the liberal position on them.

I tend to agree with not saying anything nice about McCain, but it is gracious, and does make McCain seems awfully tiny in comparison.

Posted by: dob at August 29, 2008 01:10 PM
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I agree with the liklihood of systematic conspiracy on a large scale froz. The fact that no one really seems in agreement about its existence just shows that it is probably sophisticated.

Posted by: Will at August 29, 2008 04:51 PM
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Can I just say that I have been fighting with other SAHM in a Mommy forum about this shit (ahhh...I can cuss) for 4 days.

I don't claim to be objective- I am 100% a flaming lefty...but Jesus H. Christ if one more person tries to tell me that being a POW will make you a great president, that my right to choose isn't on the line with the conservatives and that Obama is freaking terrorist, I'm going postal on some Mommies- for reals.

My brain is fried. Apo- I could have used your superfast rhetoric today- not that they would have understood it.

Okay- my kid totally hates me for being on this laptop all day... I just needed to spout some venom before heading back to the PTA.

There was actually a long thread ABOUT CINDY McCAIN's HAIR... WTF.

Posted by: Steph at August 29, 2008 04:55 PM
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Fight the good fight, Steph.

Posted by: dob at August 29, 2008 05:05 PM
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Much of this McCain worship has to do with the post-911 politically correct (mandatory?) veneration of the military. Since those of us on the sidelines have not been asked to do anything else in this 'transcendental' struggle, people feel they must make a public show of supporting the troops. Car ribbons, flag pins, pledging allegiance -- all good ways to feel like you are contributing without really doing anything. (Like praying for a sick friend.)

Is it really heroic to be in the military? Sometimes, of course, but only a fraction are at risk. And only a fraction of those put themselves there to serve some higher purpose -- higher, that is, than job training or enlistment bonuses.

Aren't firefighters, EMS technicians, police, and even rodeo clowns in the same category? But although their work is appreciated, they aren't given the same sappy adoration as the troops.

It's because this is not about them, it's about us and what it takes to ease our guilt at having sent these people headfirst into the meatgrinder for no good reason. So we kiss a little ass, not because we really care but because it makes us feel better to act like we do.

Posted by: caradoc at August 29, 2008 05:59 PM
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[Clownæ! Hi!]

Seems to me that being a POW is far more likely to make one a PTSD sufferer, prone to outbursts of temp... oops.

Posted by: DominEditrix at August 29, 2008 06:57 PM
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Hi, DEditrix! Hao jiao.

Posted by: Clownæsthesiologist at August 29, 2008 07:23 PM
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And oh, yeah... I'm really sick of all y'all hiding my fucking keys all the time. Cut it out.

Posted by: froz gobo at August 29, 2008 07:33 PM
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What's to like about McCain? Plenty.

Taking the issues listed in the article one at a time.

Campaign finance reform. A guy who married a beer heiress and so can fund his own campaigns co-sponsors a law to better identify where donations come from. It was a mostly unsuccessful law, to be sure, and not nearly as ambitious as was claimed, but that happens a lot so no blame there. However, when it proved inconvenient during his presidential run, he was perfectly willing to break it and dare a quorumless FEC to do anything about it.

"McCain was the point man in 2005 in the ultimately successful effort to gain Bush's signature on legislation banning the use of torture against detainees in the war on terror."

Except it didn't stop it; the government just made increasingly tendentious arguments why what they were doing didn't count as torture. McCain talks a good line on this, and I'm sure believes it due to having endured it, but when push comes to shove, he refuses to actually hold the administration accountable for it.

McCain was a member of the so-called Gang of 14

"Okay, you give us six far right judges and we'll reject these six over here, then Bush will propose six new far right judges in their place. Accept this or (shakes heads regretfully and sighs meaningfully), I'll have to let my party revoke the right of filibuster on this."

McCain and Lieberman work closely on climate control legislation

Or did until this presidential run! Now, not so much. And that's the pattern with his entire career. He's a maverick! Until he isn't. He stands up to the religious right! Until he doesn't. All depends on what looks like the clearer path to the presidency.

McCain only looks reasonable because the rest of the GOP has been taken over by true believer loons and he's one of the last cynics standing. That's marginally better, I suppose, but it's a mighty thin margin and he's still voting with the loons the vast majority of the time.

Posted by: apostropher at August 29, 2008 10:11 PM
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I will give him credit for having a relatively sane immigration stance and, indeed, often better than certain chunks of the Democratic Party. But he sure has stopped talking about it during this campaign.

Posted by: apostropher at August 29, 2008 10:14 PM
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I missed the speech, but here in So. central GA comcast seems to have more than a few problems during Olbermann's Special Comment and The Daily Show. In addition, I have stayed at a couple of chain hotels in the southeast where the cable package does not include MSNBC.

Posted by: e julius drivingstorm at August 29, 2008 10:42 PM
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Say what you will about McCain, but the fact remains: Palin is one of our nation's hottest governors.

Posted by: Gaijin Biker at August 29, 2008 11:11 PM
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29: Agreed. But Granholm has the edge. Damn, that accent is worse than nails on a chalkboard, though; four years of that I can not stand.

Posted by: froz gobo at August 30, 2008 01:18 AM
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I'd need to see Palin and Granhol--

You know, I think I'm not going to finish that sentence. They are both very attractive women.

Posted by: apostropher at August 30, 2008 06:31 AM
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Maybe it's a metaphor for all manner of crap and this is actually a literary monument of infinite dimension commemorating it. Yeah. Brilliant!

Posted by: PirateRo at August 30, 2008 07:56 AM
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About that McCain–Feingold Act: Hidden deftly within its pages is a provision that prohibits retiring federal employees from saying anything negative about the then-current administration for a period of one year after retirement, on pain of losing their pensions. Nice way to prevent whistle-blowing or criticism from those in the know.

[OTOH, if one patronises the bars in G-town where the White House aides drink, one can hear horror stories galore.]

Posted by: DominEditrix at August 30, 2008 04:02 PM
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The Obama speech on CSPAN came through loud and clear on Comcast here in the great liberal Satan (Massachusetts).

Posted by: Nathan Williams at August 30, 2008 11:06 PM
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In Minneapolis on CBS, there were a few transmission glitches which I attributed the delay software used on live TV. But nothing that would garble content - just a few artifacts in the video.

Posted by: Erik at August 31, 2008 05:38 AM
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Also in Minneapolis, I was watching on PBS and didn't see any glitches.

Posted by: Josh at September 3, 2008 03:08 PM
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I ran my recordings of the glitches that occurred during the speech through some sophisticated filtering software, and I found backwards bible messages and images of Obama with horns....

Posted by: ERB at September 3, 2008 10:07 PM
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Fortunately I cast my ballot in a Blue state, so I get to throw away my vote on Bob Barr - even while I root for Obama and recognize that McCain and Palin would certainly be a vast improvement over Bush and Cheney.

Only Obama isn't beholden to the military - yet - and has any chance of doing a real job of cleaning out the White House. The Republicans need a few more years in the wilderness and to start repenting before I vote for another one (other than one like Ron Paul or Barr). But I am worried about the bigger, "problem-solving" government that Obama is going to want to bring to us.

Posted by: TokyoTom at September 5, 2008 06:50 AM
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HOLY CRAP!

A littlele while ago I posted a response about media political bias. It's time for me to admit that I haven't had cable in almost 2 decades, and have only had broadcast tv for about the last 2 years.

I just moved into a place with free cable and had the day off yesterday, so I spent most of the day surfing. Again, holy crap!!!!
Are CNN and MSNBC even news channels? It is not an exageration to say that ALL DAY was JOhn McCain day (and his running mate, the true Antichrist). They cut to Obama once, on CNN, and the SOUND WENT OUT! Holy crap, I say! Again this morning I checked in and say Obama speaking, and, unlike yesterday, his speech was somehow an reason to cut to the other candidate and show what he was doing. It's dispicable.

Are there any news casters on cable, or are they all now commentators? And where did the myth of the "liberal media" come from? If the media was liberal, there must be a channel I can turn to to see it now, or does "liberal media" just refer to public television and NPR? Does anyone belive in objective journalism any more?

I am seriously flummoxed and pissed? Does anyone know what to do, where to write at least? They are almost blatantly campaining for one party. Add this to the fact that the McCain people have co-opted almost every one of obama's themes and tactics (including change) and people are beliveing I. That is, if you can believe the "news".

Posted by: ERB at September 9, 2008 11:02 AM
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