January 12, 2008

In a nutshell.

Posted by apostropher

I haven't said anything about about Jonah Goldberg's magnum opus Liberal Fascism because: a) I haven't read it; b) everybody else has already said anything I might possibly have to say; and c) because Goldberg is so obviously an Olympic-level doofus spouting gibberish that picking on the retarded kid down the street seems more sporting. However, for elegance and succinctness in addressing Goldberg's "argument," I'll take John Emerson for the win.

Fascism is warlike; liberal fascism is wimpy. Fascism is macho and dominant; liberal fascism is passive and weenie. Fascist gangs rampage through the streets and beat up old Jews; liberal fascist gangs sit in libraries and discuss empowerment. Fascists are health-conscious vegetarians; liberal fascists are health-conscious vegetarians too! Fascists are nationalists; liberal fascists are multiculturalists. Fascists kill Jews; liberal fascists are Jews. Fascists are anti-abortion; liberal fascists are baby-killers. Fascists destroy labor unions; liberal fascists use unions to destroy schools. Fascists burn decadent art; liberal fascists produce decadent art.

See, it all makes sense, especially the vegetarian part.

Also, this is hilarious, if a bit like watching the first half of today's UNC-NCSU game.


Comments
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Goldberg is beyond rational comment, so this analysis is perfect.
Bartcop has his mother's number and Jonah's pathetic existence is defined by her.

Posted by: waldo at January 13, 2008 10:00 PM
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I love it, Goldberg has basically Godwinned the entire planet. Show's over folks. Move along.

Posted by: Cangrejero at January 14, 2008 08:36 AM
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Oh, and holy shit my beloved Wolfpack sucks serious ass at basketball.

Posted by: Cangrejero at January 14, 2008 08:38 AM
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Everybody, including apo, is giving Goldberg more attention than he deserves.

Thast sai, there is a fair degree of conformism, intolerance and blindness among liberals (my humble perspective), but conservatives certainly take the cake these days.

What, no support for Goldberg by GB?

Posted by: TokyoTom at January 14, 2008 11:00 PM
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"Thast sai,(sic) there is a fair degree of conformism, intolerance and blindness among liberals..."- TokyoTom

"They learned good from their friends at Media Matters, that rat-bum -- it's a homosexual, fascist website. Let me explain who Media Matters is. It was founded by Hillary Clinton. It's run by a bunch of fascist homosexuals. They're the brownshirts of our time.
When are you gonna wake up to the fact that liberals are not liberal? When are you gonna wake up to the fact that the liberals are the new fascists. They are the brownshirts! And they're gonna take this country over the cliff if you don't stand up to them and stop them."
"Dont tallk to me about the majority of bums that live in tin huts, they shouldn't even vote...anyone who goes on welfare should lose their right to vote, they are parasites."
"And I think there should be no mercy shown to these sub-humans. I believe that a thousand of them should be killed tomorrow. I think a thousand of them held in the Iraqi prison should be given 24 hour -- a trial and executed. I think they need to be shown that we are not going to roll over to them. -Michael Weiner.

Well, I'm saying you can draw a line, but it's not a straight one. It goes all sorts of different places. I'm not saying that today's liberalism is the son of Nazism or the son of Italian fascism. I'm saying it's sort of like the great-grandniece once removed. They have some common DNA, some common themes, some family resemblances that come up." -Jonah Golberg
"If Al Qaeda comes in here and blows you up, we're not going to do anything about it. We're going to say, look, every other place in America is off limits to you, except San Francisco. You want to blow up the Coit Tower? Go ahead.'"- Bill O'Reilly
"Finally, the ACLU — we talked about this yesterday and I — and, you know, I have to pick on the ACLU because they're the most dangerous organization in the United States of America right now. There's by far. There's nobody even close to that. They're, like, second next to Al Qaeda."- "- Bill O'Reilly

"Liberals love America like O.J. loved Nicole."
"Whether they are defending the Soviet Union or bleating for Saddam Hussein, liberals are always against America. They are either traitors or idiots."
"If I'm going to say anything about John Edwards in the future, I'll just wish he had been killed in a terrorist assassination plot...I was going to have a few comments about John Edwards but you have to go into rehab if you use the word faggot." Anne Coulter
Hey Tom, say something else, you fucking genius.


Posted by: waldo at January 15, 2008 12:43 AM
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6: Greenwald is right that hate-crimes legislation is a double-edged sword (as for that latter are Britain's libel laws), but wrong to imply that it is something particularly new -- Canada's hate-crime statutes have been on the books since 1966 -- and unconvincing that the complexities make it simply "tyrannical." Unlike the more recent raft of "anti-terror" legislation, hate crime legislation at least has some track record of serving its expressed purpose... and yes, that includes providing Canadian Muslims some recourse against vicious, race-baiting assholes like Ezra Levant.

Posted by: Doctor Slack at January 15, 2008 02:08 PM
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Yeah, the Turner fiasco is something else, isn't it? The FBI paying this guy to be an asshole, in order to bring fanatics out of the woodwork.

Sorry, waldo, but there is a comparison to be made. The real evil is on the right, but oppressive do-goodism in the form of laws against hate speech, rigid PC groupthink of the kind that drummed Larry Summers out of Harvard and cradle to grave paternalism (including but not limited to the war on drugs, the prescription drug entitlement, homeland "security"/PATRIOT Act nonsense) have all been either led by or aided and abetted by Dems and merit consideration.

Culture wars are a political strategy fomented by Republicans, but it seems that there are many Dems who enjoy being in the trap.

Posted by: TokyoTom at January 15, 2008 10:15 PM
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Given the role that more or less unfettered hate-speech has played in enabling real tyranny in the US, which now disappears and tortures people like a tin-pot dictatorship, blaming the "oppressive do-goodism" of non-existent hate speech laws seems not particularly on point. Many Dems have lots of complicity to answer for, but that complicity is far more with genuine tyranny than excessive "do-goodism."

Posted by: Doctor Slack at January 16, 2008 12:14 AM
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Dr. Slack, I am happy to agree that complicity with real tyranny - in the way the US behaves abroad - is something Dems also have responsibility for. Concern with that is of course proper, but does not obviate a concern about domestic governance.

Posted by: TokyoTom at January 16, 2008 02:14 AM
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