Not quite shrill enough.

Obliquely comparing Bush to Hitler and opining that humanity might soon be be best served by his assassination no longer cuts it? Wow, tough crowd.

Trust me, I don't think highly of the President or this administration, but really, is it even possible for them to be that stupid? War with Iran is just such a horribly bad idea. I don't see how it's possible that even a moron couldn't see this.

You're coming close to the punchline of the web comic Shooting War.

Oh, and Stephen Fry wrote a novel in which somebody went back in time and killed Hitler, and the Nazis were taken over by somebody far more competent. Genocide body counts in the hundreds of millions. The book pissed some people off mightily.

is it even possible for them to be that stupid?

Yes.

Remember how most of the insider talking-heads thought they were bluffing about Iraq?

Folks, I urge you to check out some truly OUTSTANDING interviews/podcasts via KAOS's Scott Horton and Antiwar.com

One of them is with WIlliam Lind, who has smart things to say about why "victory in Iraq" as Bush likes to call it is impossible.

The first guest on Antiwar Radio for January 10th, 2007 is William S. Lind, Director of the Center for Cultural Conservatism at the Free Congress Foundation, about his anti-interventionist conservatism, 4th generation warfare, American involvement in Ethiopia’s invasion of Somalia and the threat to American troops in Iraq should the U.S. bomb Iran.

Mp3 here.

http://www.antiwar.com/radio/Lind_01_10_07.mp3

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Antiwar Radio for January 11, 2007: Antiwar.com editorial director Justin Raimondo on Bush’s speech and the further disaster it portends.

Mp3 here.

http://www.antiwar.com/radio/Raimondo01_11_07.mp3

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Larisa Alexandrovna, the managing editor of RawStory.com discusses John Negroponte’s departure from the Director of National Intelligence position to be Deputy Secretary of State, his replacement, John McConnell, and the liars who are pushing for war with Iran.

Mp3 here.

http://www.antiwar.com/radio/Alexandrovna_01_10_07.mp3

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My guest for Tuesday January 9, 2007 is investigative reporter Robert Parry, author of Secrecy and Privilege: Rise of the Bush Dynasty from Watergate to Iraq and proprietor of Consortiumnews.com on the topic of the U.S. government’s long term covert relationship with Saddam Hussein and the possibility of war against Iran.

Mp3 here.

http://www.antiwar.com/radio/Parry_01_09_07.mp3

The Robert Parry interview here discusses all kinds of interesting things related to the October Surprise plot of 1980, what Rumsfeld was doing in IRaq when seen shaking hands with Saddam in 1983, the long ties between Hussein and the CIA dating back to the late 50s, addresses whether April Glaspie gave a "Green light" or whether it was garbled communications, or whether Bush I changed his mind when Thatcher intoned "Don't go wobbly on me George...etc.

All this goes to show you. If you are a little country filled with brown people, don't be a friend of the CIA. Eventually you will get bombed for it.

Since I'm not part of the "shrill crowd," I'd like a clarification.

Are these sources you linked to claiming that Bush is using the escalation of the war in Iraq as a veil to launch a war against Iran?

Just trying to understand the thesis.

I'm claiming it.

Greenwald's been all over it, too, for the last week.

Provocative post, though I'm against shooting Bush for the same reason I was against shooting Saddam; I'd prefer to see them behind bars for as long as they lived. Hard to achieve in Bush's case but if anough people keep working on it...

apo - Sorry, I don't have the time to wade through mineshaft posts. I have other things to do, like breathe.

The 101 Keyboard Kommandos have been banging the Iran war drums for a long time. We do have two fronts on Iran, but pretty shaky ones at that. And Bush trying to invade a "new" country with the opposition party in charge of the legislature and the public against the military actions going on now? He'd be stupid to try.

Unfortunately, he may be that stupid.

I linked to a specific comment of mine there, JJ.

"Here's why I don't share your guarded optimism, Tim: I firmly believe that Iran has been the target all along. Invading Iraq was just the way to get the troops into place. Now, they thought that Iraq was going to be far, far easier than it turned out to be, that they could just install Chalabi as the new, pro-American Shi'ite strongman and that the Iraqis would be happy enough to see Saddam gone that things would run relatively smoothly. I suspect they thought they'd be in Iran already."

"But this isn't some new adventure. It's the next stage of the original one."

invading Iran is tactically and strategically impossible. it simply will not work. period.

do you see the map of iran. it is all mountains. roads pass through mountains to get from town to town. along roads pass supplies. iran will cut of supply lines at mountain passes ahead. and it will incite sadr and maybe all of the shiite south of iraq against the yanquis. this would be like dien bien phu all over again, and the end of american global power.

i dont see how this could ever work. most people dont. who the hell could want an invasion of iraq. pure madnesss.

invading Iran is tactically and strategically impossible

But bombing it isn't.

Not impossible, but awful stupid. Bets are open for the date the first bomb hits Iranian soil.

not impossible, but stupid. that is why the israeli military isnt even behind it, and are hence leaking their plans all over the place to arouse the shock of the world.

who is behind bombing iran... lockheed. halliburton. a few israeli right wing kooks. a few american right wing kooks. a few american neocons who know better, but are playing this because they feel the need for more creative destruction as they call it.

faster please, as mike ledeen likes to say.

f*** you please, as I say.

oh hell. my autofill goofed on me here. left my real full name. please delete above message asap. i am trying to look for a job, for heavens sake. what do you take for bribes to get that message deleted.

Is it a minimum wage job?

The only way to stop this despotic, Hitler wannabe is to impeach him. He is truly the greatest American tragedy of all time. Chimperor Mc Ignoramusflaciddusmaximus seems to be going further and further off the deep end, and he is kicking the will of WE THE PEOPLE over the cliff as he goes.

I'm against shooting Bush for the same reason I was against shooting Saddam; I'd prefer to see them behind bars for as long as they lived.

waldo, the point isn't to have Bush bear some sort of suffering comparable to the consequences of his actions - that is neither possible in the first place, nor does it seem to be in Bush's nature to either comprehend or feel any serious remorse.

apo's point is to have us wonder, given the horrific things he and Cheny appear to have planned, whether it isn't better to get them both out of the way.

apo, growing up I was somewhat turned off by the anti-big government themes running through Stephen King's Dead Zone (power-hungry politicians) and Carrie (black-box spook and defense programs). Now I understand and sypathize with them much better than I wish.

I agree with you that Iran has been one of the principal targets all along. I had thought that the strong message sent by the election would have been enough, but apparently not. We need people with balls to stand up to the White House, and to take back our country from them. Perhaps the best way to prevent an invasion of Iran would be to pass resolutions prohibiting an invasion and to commence impeachment proceedings immediately.

Apo,
a while back you linked to a Juan Cole article that spelled out what he thinks is the reason we are really at war with Iraq(getting to Iran was key). Can you re-link? I have combed through J.C.com can't find it and it was really good.

CW

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My guest on Antiwar Radio for January 16, 2007 is historian and analyst Gareth Porter from IPS News on why America’s policy toward Iran has not really changed despite the Bush administration’s recent seemingly more aggressive pronouncements and actions, their policy of backing the Iran parties in Iraq and Iran’s spurned attempts to make peace with the U.S.

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