There’s the tiniest little bit of light sneaking out of there, but it’s just not enough to conclude that anybody’s home. John Hinderaker seems confused that the bombing of a sacred Shiite shrine by those who relish civil war would result in “irrational” blaming of the Americans.
Here’s a hint: The people who blew up the shrine did so in large part because, drumroll, please...
They knew everybody within a thousand miles would blame the Americans! Ta-Daaa! See how this works? It's middlle eastern politics 101. Mob violence, religious passions, and blaming the Americans and Israelis are the primary methods of political discourse. How much you wanna bet we get blamed for the reprisals, too?
Oh. It's just not fair.
Why you can blow up, sabotage, maim or kill just about anything or anybody in Iraq these days and eeeeeveryone just blames the Americans. I wonder who might put that to their advantage? Hmm, how's about...
Everybody!!
Powerseekers there increasingly have everything to gain by demonizing the American presence. You can not ‘win’ given that kind of reality. Invasion worsened the situation in the country, worsened it in the region, and yes, worsened it here in North America. For a long time to come. This unfolding of events disheartens, yes (I suppose we have some common ground there), but surprises nobody but the idiotically myopic.
TrackBackSuch defeatist, America-hating drivel. You must be a Liberal! Reality on the ground doesn't matter, since God - oops, Democracy! - is on our side.
And if people distrust us, it's only because they haven't listened to our latest public relations campaign.
We plan to keep rolling out Democracy across the Middle East, and won't stop until the world is in flames. We will oust all the bad leaders who suppress their people, divide each country along religious and ethnic lines, and then work with the resulting Democracies and their elected leaders who hate us.
Posted by: TokyoTom at February 24, 2006 05:50 AMApos mate
You're linking to a guy who said Bush is 'near genius'? Whoa, interesting slant.
And why would anyone blame America for this disaster? Just because the US military did exactly the same thing forty years ago in Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia, that doesn't mean they knew what would happen if they bombed Iraq's infrastructure to pieces, disbanded the country's bureaucracy, set up a bunch of corrupt thugs to rule over the whole sorry mess while they ripped the country off stupid, then murdered, tortured and sexually abused innocent men women and children. How could they know that a society that boasts a 1,000 year history of violent confrontation between fanatical religious devotees would tear itself apart after three years of senseless violence, provocation and corruption instigated by a bunch of hicks who think that an 8,000 year old culture needs them to tell them to eat fucking McDonalds?
Who would've guessed that this senseless, obscene, inhumanly- stupid military disaster would end in disaster? Surprahs, surprahs, sur fucking prahs.
Trying to explain a concept more complicated than "The President kicks ass!" to that collection of reactionary cretins is like trying to explain particle physics to a cat. Well, at least the cat won't call you a traitor and flash its Time Magazine Blog of the Year medallion at you.
Posted by: norbizness at February 24, 2006 09:05 AMI've said this before: the only way out for us is a secular government strong enough to impose order on the religious sects. We need a leader with a large military following. A leader feared by both sides. There's only one man who can do it ... Saddam.
Posted by: Charles Watkins at February 24, 2006 12:32 PMNot to mention that, you know, the unrest in Iraq is there because we invaded, took down the government, and then stood around with our thumbs up our asses going "wait, why is everything all chaotic now?"
My cat understands particle physics, Norbiz.
Posted by: bitchphd at February 24, 2006 01:23 PMWhy do cats walk with their tails in the air?
So you can see their Time Magazine Blog of the Year medallions.
Posted by: Matt Weiner at February 24, 2006 04:05 PMPlenty of people have an incentive to blame attacks like this one on America. And yes, they're trying to do just that. But whether people believe them is another matter.
Do you really think Iraqis have less of an understanding about what's taking place on the ground in their own country than a bunch of American bloggers do?
Posted by: GaijinBiker at February 25, 2006 05:38 AMOn the other hand, I suppose we did dig our own graves on this one.
After all, why should Hindraker's Pakistanis be favorably disposed to the US after we go and do stuff like this?:
WASHINGTON, Feb. 13, 2006 – The U.S. military's earthquake relief mission in Pakistan is slated to conclude this spring, a senior Defense Department official said here today.
"I suspect that towards the end of March or the beginning of April somewhere in that timeframe or so we will have transitioned all of our personnel from Pakistan," DoD spokesman Bryan Whitman told reporters at the Pentagon.
An earthquake pegged at the 7.6 magnitude struck the Kashmir region in northern Pakistan on Oct. 8, 2005, killing more than 70,000 citizens, injuring more than 60,000 and leaving more than 3 million homeless.
Whitman said U.S. Central Command has led a 63-nation relief effort in Pakistan since Oct. 10, 2005, which includes food, medical care, transportation and other types of post-disaster support.
More than 1,200 U.S. military members and 25 helicopters had been deployed to Pakistan at the peak of the relief mission, Whitman said.
About 650 U.S. service members in Pakistan continue to provide aviation, medical and engineering assistance in earthquake-affected areas, he said. And 12 U.S. CH-47 Chinook cargo helicopters continue to fly disaster relief missions in Pakistan.
To date, U.S. military aviators have flown more than 4,000 missions, delivered more than 11,000 tons of supplies, and transported more than 18,000 people as part of earthquake relief operations in Pakistan, Whitman said.
The U.S. also is donating about $6 million worth of medical, engineering and refueling equipment to the Pakistani government, Whitman said.
That assistance includes more than $3 million worth of medical equipment that's been used in the relief effort, he said, to include a mobile surgical hospital, anesthesia apparatus, ventilators and X-ray equipment.
I tells ya, we Americans really have to stop being so clueless about the needs of other nations if we want any respect from them.
Posted by: GaijinBiker at February 25, 2006 11:33 PMYo GB, concerning your question of those on teh grownd, yes American bloggers do. They're separated from the passion that clouds the judgement most Iraqi's know with having half of their associates dead. It really doesn't matter if Americans killed them, they're dead because Americans are there. How would you feel?
I respect having conviction in an Alliance, but really, enough is enough. Perhaps those that question patriotism, really aren't patriots. Gods bless America.
Posted by: TrickL-D at February 26, 2006 12:53 AM