November 04, 2004

We all have values.

Posted by apostropher

Adam Felber concedes.

Healing? We, the people at risk from terrorists, the people who subsidize you, the people who speak in glowing and respectful terms about the heartland of America while that heartland insults and excoriates us... we wanted some healing. We spoke loud and clear. And you refused to give it to us, largely because of your high moral values. You knew better: America doesn't need its allies, doesn't need to share the burden, doesn't need to unite the world, doesn't need to provide for its future. Hell no. Not when it's got a human shield of pointy-headed, atheistic, unconfrontational breadwinners who are willing to pay the bills and play nice in the vain hope of winning a vote that we can never have. Because we're "morally inferior," I suppose, we are supposed to respect your values while you insult ours. And the big joke here is that for 20 years, we've done just that. It's not a "ha-ha" funny joke, I realize, but it's a joke all the same. (via The Poor Man)

The post is funny and worth your time, but there's a serious issue at work here. We are getting endless advice from the right (and some on the left) that we need to show some respect to "Middle American values," whatever those may be. But you know what? We always have, and meanwhile the rhetoric emanating from the red states has consistently been sneering derision toward the "pointy-headed liberal godless elites" (disclaimer: I live in a red state, but in a region of it that broke better than 2-1 for Kerry). John Kerry wasn't called a liberal; he was called a Massachusetts liberal, which somehow was meant to convey an even greater sense of moral turpitude.

What is being called for is not "respect" for neo-GOP values, but capitulation to them. Well, screw you. Your morality is not superior (or, for that matter, inferior), it is merely different. We aren't the ones pressing the culture wars, but we aren't unilaterally disarming either. Don't like gay marriage? Nobody has ever threatened to make you marry within your gender. Don't like abortion? Nobody has ever proposed forcing you to get one. Despite your campaign scare literature to the contrary, nobody over here is proposing banning the Bible. Almost all of us own one, you know. Activist judges? Please. You guys own the judiciary.

Bush didn't take a single west coast state, no northeastern states, and only one Great Lakes state - and that one just barely. He does not have a national mandate with 51% of the vote, a percentage that is likely to drop closer to 50 as the remaining absentee ballots get tabulated. He won, but it was still very close. Let's call it like it is: red America (which is not bound by state borders) doesn't like blue America (similarly unbounded) and vice versa. You guys have controlled all three branches of government and a majority of the governships for years now. You are the elites, despite your cherished, illusory feelings of victimization. For every gram of liberal condescension, there is at least an equal amount of conservative condescension. At least we don't use "conservative" as an epithet.

This is a deeply, angrily divided country and I can't see that division lessening any time soon. I'd love for us all not to sneer and flip the bird at one another, but that reality ain't materializing. Gird yourself for the culture wars. They have begun.

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"Majority rule don't work in mental institutions."
-NOFX

Posted by: Alex Dooley at November 4, 2004 12:32 PM
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"Your morality is not superior (or, for that matter, inferior), it is merely different."

For grading student papers, I have a stamp that says "FALSE." If I could stamp claims on the internet, I'd stamp that one.

Anyone who believes that gay marriage is a moral consideration and that war isn't suffers from a moral sensitivity that can only be called degenerate.

Posted by: lenhart at November 4, 2004 12:54 PM
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Lenhart,
That view (which I share) proceeds from a starting set of differing fundamental moral assumptions that cannot be "proven" in any meaningful way. Their moral values are inferior given my personal rules of morality. But that's some mighty circular reasoning...

Posted by: apostropher at November 4, 2004 01:00 PM
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Apostropher - I think that the difference is that you (and I, by the way) are willing to acknowledge that there is more than one possible set of moral assumptions. Lots of people, blue and red alike, have a problem with that.

Posted by: LarryB at November 4, 2004 01:41 PM
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It seems that for intellectual capacity to increase with the greatest efficiency, it is necessary to question even our most closely held judgments. This includes ideas of morality. We all know people who think themselves intelligent but who betray their stupidity constantly in word and action. If we can see their ignorance but they cannot, who is to say that we are not subject to the same inadequacy.

Preaching to the choir...

Posted by: Alex J. Dooley at November 4, 2004 02:13 PM
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Let's take time out to thank those with whom we disagree, for they make us better.

Go fuck yourself, you stupid libertarian. ;)

Posted by: apostropher at November 4, 2004 02:48 PM
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:p

Posted by: John Johnson at November 4, 2004 03:06 PM
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Bear in mind also that there are red states and RED STATES. I live in Iowa, where the election is technically still "too close to call" , though it's widely assumed that the state will go to Bush, probably by only 10,000-15,000 votes. (And believe me, I could puke at the thought, since Iowa usually sides more with its neighbors to the north and east than the south and west.) Just because the color is solid doesn't mean the political demographics are--Iowa, Colorado, and New Mexico are not Idaho, Mississippi, or Utah. There are gains to be made, and they're going to be made in those red states so closely divided that they might as well be purple.

Posted by: Saylor at November 4, 2004 03:58 PM
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Utah - bastion of free thought...

Posted by: Alex J. Dooley at November 4, 2004 04:03 PM
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